~MIR??CLES~ do you believe?

[Leo the Lioness]

it's not that your opinion isnt welcome, i can only speak for myself, but i thought the whole God thing was already covered in the other topic, when you explained how you felt and why, etc......i was under the impression that it wasnt going to be a big debate, that we'd each respect the other's right to believe what we want - agree to disagree - this topic deals with miracles, and miracles are a lot of times associated with a belief in God.....so i think that's why people dont seem to want to keep up the argument...

[Myra]

Funks! you didnt offend me in anyway.. our beliefs are just different and you of all people know my temper. *L* I blow up at little things sooo i though it best to just not discuss it at all *G* No worries *G* *looks at icq* yer never on anymore *P*

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Everyone thinks i am insane.... all but my friends deep inside the earth......

[dafunks]

I dont see respect. All i see is friends lost in the evil that has engulfed this earth and has raped us of who we are!

This will be my last post! You dont listen to me for a few reasons. You have been manipulated since birth. Your thoughts are not your own. Your a by product of generations that came before you. You are also scared that i may be right. Having your faith challenged is something you dont tollerate. Deep down you respect no-one elses beliefs. Why? Because you holy book tells you not to. Being that you actually practice what you preach!

Know whats ironic about this is? Im probably the only one here who has actually read the bible as it is. Never mind in two other language translations. Ive listened to the word of God being spread from many a different source. Ive read many a book thats teared apart the fabric that lies within it and see it for what it truelly is. Funny how someone who actually has read what he has and seen what he has, takes this point of view aint it?

Take care of yourselves.

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I will carry you through, kicking and screaming, and in the end you will thank me.

The FightClub Forum

[This message has been edited by dafunks (edited August 16, 2000).]

[Më£ïñÐa]

*deep breath
..Honestly DaFunks....
..when you were in the hospital suffering...
.Did you even know there was a God to turn to??..Did you call out to him at that time and ..can you say he ignored you???
Have you ever tried and it failed....
Have you ever thought your suffering wouldnt have been so bad...or for so long if you tried him???
..OR
..are you saying you did try and he wasnt listening to you, so you healed yourself and, came to the conclusion there is no God?...

I totaly believe in the healing of ones self....

[Më£ïñÐa]

oh! BTW...who are you talking to here???

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Everyone looks at the world differently. Im just sad that when you force this upon people, you, yourselves cannot tollerate critisism.
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who are you talking to here??

Theres no problem at all with whats happening here....psssst turn on yer icq....
*lovin hugsU

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[Më£ïñÐa]

FFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!
I took too long! damn!!

[Më£ïñÐa]

I just wanna say....I dont believe in scriptures....i dont have a religion....
I believe in LOVE and the source of LOVE is God!
I believe, in the deception of Satan,......

[Leo the Lioness]

you know, i really resent someone who has no idea who i am telling me about myself and making all these assumptions and then condemning me.......i never ONCE said i didnt respect the fact that not everyone believes in God and i also never ONCE tried to sway your opinion about His existence, DID I?? NO, i just said that i didnt expect to be having this same debate over and over and over again every time God was mentioned! is that so bad?


"You dont listen to me for a few reasons." you say........."Your thoughts are not your own.".........i totally and completely RESENT that.....you have no inkling what i think and why......im old enough to make my own decisions about how i view the world and what's beyond it and yes im aware of the Bible and NO I DONT AGREE WITH ALL OF IT!

i dont base my love of God on the Bible...shows how much you know....i base it on ......YES, what i was taught as a child, but im not your typical Catholic, OK?? i've broken a lot of laws and i also believe in gay marriage........im not anti-abortion either......so i guess that makes me a bad Catholic in their eyes, but i STILL BELIEVE IN AND LOVE GOD......!!!!

i call myself "spiritual" rather than "religious", because there is a big difference......and all the preaching in the world is not going to convince me that God doesnt exist, etc........WHY DONT I HAVE THAT RIGHT IN YOUR EYES?

"Deep down you respect no-one elses beliefs. Why? Because you holy book tells you not to."
sorry but nothing can be further from the truth and i have sat here and asked myself honestly if any of that could possibly be right.....im no puppet, thank you.

wanna know what word i live my life by, as far as other people's beliefs go?

"live and let live"....

i dont know who wrote that, or if it's in the Bible, but it's a frigging good way to conduct yourself, especially in a group of people from all over the world from diverse cultures and such varied belief-systems

im not about to try and change you.....

[dafunks]

Leo this wasnt a personal attack on you. You, like myself are a none believer. Because if you were a true beleiver you would mess with the word of God. You seen it as a persoanl attack because deep down you have no true faith. I say "true" because the word of God doesnt change with the times. Its a set peice. You either follow or do not. There is no middle of the road. Your deluding yourself into beleiving that. Read the fucken book. Its in black and white.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Times New Roman">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Leo the Lioness:
"live and let live"....

i dont know who wrote that, or if it's in the Bible,<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope it isnt in the bible. God "Hates" anyone who doesnt follow his exact word. Read revelations. Love, peace and all that fucken bullshit isnt what he has in mind. You either follow his word to the fucken letter or be condemened. God doesnt forgive. Priest make you think that. *L* But, alas. It isnt so! You beleive or do not believe. There is no fucken middle in this. If you do not follow him to the letter. You are the same as me. Condemed to hell hell hell. What a croak of shit!

This is what he has to say to you all half faith believers.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Times New Roman">quote:</font><HR>Relevation :
I know thy works, and tributation, and poverty (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not.

But thou hasten the deeds of the Nicolartanes, which i also hate.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would like to draw your attention to the word "hate"

He is speaking to everyone who has not follow his word. There is no if's but's or maybe's. If you do not follow it. You are condemed to hell. The seventh seal shall be broken and your time is up. All of you half believers. This is going by your logic not mine.

And Leo i am addressing everyone. Not you personally. You took it personally because of the reasons i meantioned earlier.

If you are gonna throw shit people. At least stand behind the actual beliefs you are meant to uphold. I aint here for a half assed convo with a religious radical. The word of God doesnt change with the times. Like the churches would like to let you think.

If you are a believer and do not follow his word in everyway set to you. Then your fucked

Ill see you all in hell. Ill be the one sittin in the corner saying "I told you so"

You would like to think that religion promotes, peace love and harmony. *LMAO* Have you read the book? Obviously not! I can see by the response that his word is only taken half assed. So i dont need to make this point to you any further. Because you all, deep down, do not believe and have doubts in some way or another. Because if you did believe. You would not fuck with the Almighty.

My point has been made. Not by me. But by your own resposes.

My comments about religion doesnt cover the new wave radical thinking. Im talking to the real deal religious people. The people who actually take his word into account when going through life. Not to the people who have broken his rule. The others dont count in this.




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I will carry you through, kicking and screaming, and in the end you will thank me.

The FightClub Forum

[~Virgo~]

My Dad...he was in the mine he works in when hydrogen gas filled the air.....someone lit a torch on the floor above him and apparently the sparks went down a pipe igniting the building on fire (the part where my dad was) he threw his best friend out of the building, then 2 men that we worked with....he couldn't find the door himself.....by this time he had none of his clothing left on him...it had all burt off except for his goggles, his hard hat..his boots....and his belt with the waist and pockets attached....he FINALLY got out....and ran around as a human fireball for 5 minutes because no one could catch him....when they did they rolled him around in the snow.....45 percent of his body was burnt...it was a miracle that he survived completely...the doctors don't know how he did it, there is minamal evidence of his accident today...only the family knows that he still has problems......the weird thing about that day was when the air ambulance passed over I was at school....I looked up and said I hope that is no one that I know.....little did I know.....